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Post by NA_guru on Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:22 am

official thread for my civic hatch, post any and all ideas and input on this current project.
SCOPE: conversion and overhaul of 1992 Civic CX eh2 chassis , to SI-RII eg6 spec.
PLANS: conversion from single to twin cam setup, chassis overhaul, suspension overhaul, replace drum brake setup with disk brakes, remove USDM center console setup and replace with jdm center console setup to include a fully functional computer system and screen, repaint the engine bay, color to be determined, replace rims, install wiring for the stock location fog light mod, replace ecu and wire harness with S300 spec system, and get a dyno tune for my swap.

parts yet to be ordered:
R/h and L/h axels, CV half shaft, clutch dust cover and brackets, spark plug wires, specific heat range spark plugs, crankshaft timing output bezel gear.

parts already ordered:
remachined (decked , ported, cleaned) b16b type r head
supertech complet titanium valve train, dual valve springs, TI retainers and locks
AEM Trutime cam gears
Blackworks cam seal plug
blackworks vtec solenoid cover
skunk2 vtec valve body assembly
brian crower stage 3 natural aspiration cams
TWM industries Individual throttle bodies
AEM 3.5BAR map sensor assembly
IPG vacuum manifold
cometic head gasket
JE 12.5:1 81mm pistons with forged b16 series dome and valve releifs
EAGLE H-beam forged piston rods
ACL main bearings and thrust washers
ACL rod bearings
arp head studs
arp main studs
arp pressure plate bolts
arp flywheel bolts
arp camshaft bolts
arp crankshaft bolt
forged transmission to engine bolts
Exedy 9lb balanced flywheel
Xtd stage 3 kevlar 6 puck clutch disk , twin spring
xtd stage 3 pressure plate
KMS block main bearing girdle
supertech upper deck/block guard
Crane Cams pro distributor
Crane Cams pro ceramic IG coil
Crane Cams pro CDI ignition control module
Mugen valve cover
eagle piston wrist pins
OEM type r oil pump
OEM oil pickup tube
OEM GSR water pump
IPG variable adjstable belt tensioner, billet
DOHCGARAGE brake master cylinder reinforcement bracket and stays
CANTON 5.5qt low clearance road race oil pan
front H brace assy for subframe, blue.
rear I brace , lower assembly, billet gold.
front upper control arms w/ adjustable ball joints, blue.
rear lower control arms. billet, blue.
rear upper camber rods, billet, blue.
OEM rear trailing arms, 00' integra GSR.
rear disc brake assemblies, 00' integra GSR
russel front and rear stainless braided brake lines.
Willwood 4 way adjustable brake balance controller
Yonaka one piece 3 way adjustable coilovers, with adjustable center dampers, billet gold.
3 inch full back exhaust piping
Vibrant 3inch in to 2 inch out race muffler, OEM style look. polished.
spoon front lip
front insert-mounted amber fog lights with oem location panel switch
black leather EX model dashboard conversion, non SRS
Premier cd deck.
jdm lower console, hand laid carbonfiber.
lilliput 7 inch vga/hdmi touch screen.
AXT mini-board computer, 4 gigs ram, 250 gig internal drive, 2TB external drive, 42x dvd/cd external rom drive, 12 usb input, rca output for amp setup. to be used internally for hondata and itunes.
OEM p28 ecu chipped and socketed by me, paired with hodata s300 usb interface.
SAFCII for use as map gauge and fine tuning for ITB setup
K series TPS and pigtail harness
remanned RC 440 injectors, 12 ohm
Kswap fuel line kit, 10 AN
AEM fuel pressure regulator
aeromotive 340lph fuel pump
OEM timing cover setup for b18b
b16a2 alternator brackets
AVID b series billet conversion engine mounts
Hasport D2B gold shift linkage and bushings
one peice clear front head lights. (not ricy)
custom sized 4-1 headers with type r factory heat shield brackets, 2.75 inch collector
SPOON side view mirrors
samco radiator hoses
dual core half size aluminum radiator and 12 inch fan
MADFABLAB vtec conversion kit
OEM civic type r code EK9 crank pully
toyota 4age ITB uni-filters
BLOX b series intake manifold bolts
AEM 6-1 UEGO wideband 02 and controller pagkage
aftermarket b series oil cooler and lines package,12 row

im probably forgetting a few things. not much left to get tho.
the building is set to begin in january when i get back. ill start with the suspension, and the the engine since its still lacking a few parts. any comments and suggestions for this build are welcome.

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Post by cass on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:47 pm

Well im not always ava but I could help ya out
Eceselent build btw

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Post by NA_guru on Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:57 pm

i appreciate it. its coool tho according to someone one this forum im not gonna use half these parts and im gona half ass the job. weel see.

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Post by cass on Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:38 pm

So do it up and shut that sum one up when it comes right down too it lol

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Post by redvenge99 on Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:10 pm

Thats 1 hell of a build list.. good luck and get er done...

If you need help i can break sh#t like nobody buissness.. lol

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Post by PureAdrenaline on Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:33 pm

Well, if we all went according to what one piss-ant says, none of us would have a car period. Sounds like a good, strong build. Forget what they say and build for you. They will learn when they line up with it, right?

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Post by NA_guru on Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:54 pm

PureAdrenaline wrote:Well, if we all went according to what one piss-ant says, none of us would have a car period. Sounds like a good, strong build. Forget what they say and build for you. They will learn when they line up with it, right?

this is true. i have a couple weeks when i get home to do some solid wrench turning and fabrication. even with the base tune that i wrote last month its still guaranteed 190 horse with the least of settings in mind, which is a jump from the stock 102. im predicting anywhere from 230 to 245 when its done, maybe more, maybe less.
and if i listend to the piss ants, i wouldnt be in charge of maintaining, flying, and rebuilding 3 UH-60 helicopters in the middle of afghanistan with people working under me. hondas are a walk in the park, as is any car, after swapping a transmission and two 1900 horse turbines on broken choppers. =]

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Post by MARTINI on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:23 pm

So I had a random thought, couldn't you pull a 5 speed w/ transfer case out of a CR-V and rebuild it with better gears and find a stronger rear diff & axles with a custom drive shaft and go AWD? How many AWD civi's are around???

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Post by NA_guru on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:37 pm

thats been done, and has great results but its not just a bot and go setup. the rear suspension and body/framing has extensive modification needed. also have seen a 95 hatch with AWD k20 setup. ran great.

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Post by MARTINI on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:42 pm

are the components in the B18 & B20 interchangeable? you could just get the B20 block... As for the mounts, all that can just be cut out of a CR-V and welded into the rear of the civi

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Post by redvenge99 on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:52 pm

NA_guru wrote:hondas are a walk in the park, as is any car, after swapping a transmission and two 1900 horse turbines on broken choppers. =]

I say drop one of them in it and call it a day.

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Post by MARTINI on Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:54 pm

Actually after looking at it, the B20 is identical to the B18C (Type R V-Tech) except it's bored larger... 2.0 sounds better than 1.8 to me...

Displacement: 1,973 cc (120.4 cu in)
Power: 147 hp (110 kW) @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 133 lb·ft (180 N·m) @ 4800 rpm
Rod length: 137 mm (5.4 in)
Compression: 9.6:1
Bore: 84 mm (3.3 in)
Stroke: 89 mm (3.5 in)
Redline: 6900 rpm

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Post by PureAdrenaline on Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:42 pm

Yeah, but at this point, he pretty much has his entire build list on order or there. Might not be a half bad idea for a future build though... Most might be identical, but the internals would have to be returned and re-ordered.

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Post by NA_guru on Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:23 pm

no, the b20 is idencital to the b18. everything in teh b20 ad b18 are interchangeable. ive had both engines. my first desin for this swp wwas an awd setup, i had al the research done on it first before my lsvtec setup.
everything bolts straight in with the mount conversion i have. the rear of the car has to me cut up and welded, the gas tank gets moved, the exhaust gets moved, camber arms and shocks get cut and welded in a nother spot.
not worth the agraation to achieve slightly better traction seeing as its only a part time 4wd setup

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Post by NA_guru on Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:25 pm

no the internals can stay the same. its fully interchangeable. all i would neeed is the complete drivetrain and cable shifter setup.

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Post by cass on Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:25 pm

yeah that

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Post by PureAdrenaline on Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:30 pm

Except the 1.5 vs 2.0 part... The internals that I was referring to is the pistons. They would have to be different diameters to make different measurements. I think the stroke is even different. I am not 100% on Honda, but everything else I ever worked on is like this.

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Post by NA_guru on Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:59 am

good rule of thumb, all d series parts are interchangeable, all b series parts are interchangeable. no d series part is interchangeable with a b series, h series, k series, ect, unless you use b series axels in a d series car, IE integra engine swaps into civics, or a b series transmission with an H series engine via an H2B mount kit. pistons from the 1.6 or 1.6 d series engines and heads, are interchangeable. pistons between the b18b, b18c, c1, c4, and c5 are interchangeable, as well as the b16/b17. common bore is 81mm for those. stroke is changed to acheive said displacement.
b20 engines are 84mm bore. they fit none of the above unless you machine and bore the block, in which you can only bore to a max of 85mm-85.5 mm safely.

hence, my block is a b18b1, with 81mm b16a pistons, with a b16b head.

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Post by MARTINI on Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:18 am

except for Prelude tranny's they don't play well with anything...

But the B18 and the B20 are identical except the bore (a whole 0.2L)... so yeah wouldn't the pistons have to be larger diameter or do they use slightly wider rings? everything else should be the same tho...

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Post by NA_guru on Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:09 am

lol i said that. ^^^^ to further clarify, b20pistons are 84mm.
all b18 series are 81mm. however, the b18b and b20 share a common crank. the gsr (b18c1) has a different crank and rods. the b16 has a different crank and rods. the b17 shares a common crank as a gsr but with different rods. the difference in dicplacement is created forthese engins by rod lenght, crank type, and the hieight of the piston itself. hence,whyi went with b16 pistons in a b18block. thats how im achieving higher compression. and your statement about the prelude is dependant on year range. 90-91 has a b series tranny and engine. 92 and up uses either a single cam f series or twin cam h series.

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Post by NA_guru on Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:12 am

and to go one step further, all non vtec b series camshafts are interchangeable, and all vtec b series camshafts are too.

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Post by PureAdrenaline on Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:55 am

So, like I said earlier in the thread, you would still need to send in the pistons and get new ones to compensate to the 3mm bore difference. My arguement was that on top of a new block, you would need new internals. I was just too lazy to let google do the talking for me lol. I knew that most of Honda's lineup had interchangeble parts between the series, but to get displacement differences, internals would have to be swapped out, bored out and swapped out. All that you did was to further clarify what I said, only going more in depth.

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Post by PureAdrenaline on Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:11 pm

And don't take that as me being a dick either. Like I said, I am not 100% on Hondas (although you would never know watching me take the ratchets to it), but a motor is a motor. I could have researched it a bit before I commented to get the exacts like you did, but in the end, we said the same thing.

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Post by MARTINI on Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:19 pm

Well I asked the question about if it was a difference in the piston size or the ring size... I know enough about these cars to fix em and thats about it...

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Post by NA_guru on Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:44 pm

lol sorry adrenaline, talked you guys into a circle lol. yeah id guessid have to get different internals if i went b20. all the parts i bought would just go to waste.

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Post by PureAdrenaline on Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:02 pm

Oh ok, no problem. I wasnt really sure who was answering or getting answered. It kind of confused me for a litle bit there. Martini, it would be a slightly larger piston and ring combination to make up for the 3mm.

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Post by NA_guru on Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:18 pm

on a sidenote, i think the dude selling me the sportmaxx rims flaked out on me. that being said, when i get back, day trip to zekes custom rims, lunch on me. id like to get the crews full opinion there before i decide on a set of rims.

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Post by redvenge99 on Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:11 pm

I have an account with zekes through my work not much of a discount but youll pay no taxes

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Post by NA_guru on Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:42 am

ohhh word

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Post by PureAdrenaline on Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:42 am

Damn, I need to get a job like that... I might have a bit more eye-candy for my car lol.

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Post by redvenge99 on Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:49 pm

When you work at a stealership you can get accounts anywhere

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Post by Shadow on Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:18 pm

well monti, looks like we have a bunch more sleepless nights coming our way huh? lol

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Post by NA_guru on Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:33 am

get the no-doze, beer, and pizza ready. its game time.

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Post by redvenge99 on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:36 pm

Must be home... If so welcome back

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Post by Shadow on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:54 pm

bring the no doze. that shit should be illegal lmao. i got the pizza and beer.

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Post by NA_guru on Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:51 am

nonot home yet, i just like to amp the boys up for my returns. shit gets INTENSEE

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Post by redvenge99 on Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:51 am

lol

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Post by Shadow on Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:37 pm

he gives a fantastic reach around too lmao

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Post by NA_guru on Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:15 am

oh thanks joe. GOOD GAME lol

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Post by Shadow on Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:45 am

hey, gotta give credit where credit is due lmao

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Post by cass on Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:29 am

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Post by NA_guru on Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:52 pm

arrrright, i payed for the sportmaxx's . 15x8 rim, 3 inch lip , zero offset. just about everything is in for the civic except a tranny and axles. ill e home in about 3 weeks guys cant wait!

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Post by MARTINI on Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:41 pm

Nice... can't wait to get this build going.. Hopefully the not so winter weather we're having stays...

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Post by NA_guru on Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:02 pm

yeah i hope your right, because i havea second project i took on. i spent another couple grand on parts to rebuild my quad from top to bottom, both suspesion, frame, and engine, to race specs.

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Post by NA_guru on Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:20 am

quick update: thanks to martini for teh assist today with my injector installation, whats good 850 cc bosch monsters? chyea.
working on trading for a set of gold and chrome polished aluminum JMAG rims with falken tires, will match my suspension and underbody MINT.
SUPPOSEDLy the build starts this weekend if i get full clearance through my garage and move the cutlass out. as well as a track-ready build of a 05 TRX450RR honda quad. much pics and beer drinking to come.

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Post by Shadow on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:48 am

you worked on the quad without me you jackass! lol

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Re: 1992 Honda Civic EG6 hatchback

Post by NA_guru on Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:00 am

new pics posted view on my facebook. to many to transfer over so thats where there staying.

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